Newsgroups: talk.origins Date: 1 August 2003 Message-ID: firstname.lastname@example.org
My question is: What is 100% of an eye?
If the creationists get worried about how 50% or 5% of an eye can function, shouldn't there be some standard to tell us just what is 100% of an eye?
I'd say that 100% of an eye would be one which sees 100% of the information in the electromagnetic spectrum. Well, maybe we can relax that a bit, and just confine ourselves to some standard range of wavelengths, those which are "visible" to some animal's eyes. That would cover something from the ultraviolet to the near-infrared, if I'm not mistaken.
But 100% of an eye would have to do a good job of distinguishing between wavelengths in that spectrum. The standard human three-color vision is clearly inadequate. Even some humans have four-color vision, which means the rest of us are getting by with - at most - 75% of an eye. We shouldn't be unreasonable about this, so I wonder what is the most number of distinct color receptors in any animal eye? Maybe five or six? That makes the normal human eye only 50%-60% of an eye, with respect to color discrimination.
And, then, there's the matter of acuity of vision. The standard there would be set by some birds of prey, I think. I understand that some of them have vision that is eight times as sharp as normal human vision. 12.5% of an eye for humans, with respect to acuity.
And finally, there is the lack of 360-degree vision. I think that humans have, at best, a 90 degree field of vision.
Multiply them all together 60% x 12.5% x 25% = 2.875%, but let's be generous and call it 3% (or 5% for the rare tetrachromat).
What good is 5% of an eye? Ask any human. They'd be lucky to have 5% of an eye.
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Newsgroups: talk.origins Date: 21 August 2003 Message-ID: rTa1b.email@example.com
This is kind of off-topic, but it's a "warm, fuzzy" story, so you might wanna read it.
I've been on talk.origins ... gee, I don't know how long now, maybe something like 2 years. I've been interested in evolution/religion a lot longer than that and was thrilled when I found a good place to discuss it online.
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I have to start packing now, I'll see you all again when I'm relocated to my college dorm.
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